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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 05:21:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 05:22:01
..that GMs tell you... you shouldnt be using items available ingame...
yes its about implants, and they are a vital part of the game, the only one that will help new players catch up. and im WTF ?!? when i get this response on forums and to top it off from a GM this time.
and let me tell you whats been eluding every1... people wont go into 0.0 because they dont want to lose their implants... its the only thing they care about... its not their ship even uninsured but the implants. So making those insurable in some way ( new clones come with a basic set), im telling you.... you WILL see and exodus in 0.0
which brings me to another point... clones should automatically update based on your skillpoints.. dont accuse ppl they are lazy to check medical... but its a fact they forget and then its too late... EVE is the only game that has such a harsh penalty for death.
and for those stating the obvious, yes.. i got poded. and no, you cant have my suff, and no, i dont want a cookie.
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 05:29:11
Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 05:28:42
no... there should be no risks on something as important as implants.. and ill tell you what i can risk..my ship... but not that...
and to the second poster... image ppl like me being gone.. ccp wont be making enough money to keep ppl like you playing such a game. its called customer satisfaction.
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 06:39:00 -
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 Originally by: F'nog
Edited by: F'nog on 28/02/2005 06:33:36
There's a simple rule in Eve: if you can't afford to lose it, don't use it.
im afraid things are not this simple... you dont expect to get poded in empire space, now do you? or even your pod intact sitting at the gate after so many hours?
the game has flaws... therefore ppl need insurance for the time they invested in such things they CANT afford to loose to any previsible event...
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
...or be an empire noob-corp carebear.
i guess you havent read my last post.. i was that and i still lost them... so let me say it again for you too... this is why we need insurance for them! or clones with implants... |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 07:30:00 -
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you see V1ceroy... the veterans can afford to go without implants.. it is a luxury for them but for new players is a MUST HAVE! and in empire space one should be safe, if not plz return my implants! now!! 
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 08:13:00 -
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sheial, if you cant make and argument plz stop posting!
and V1ceroy, implants are a must have for anyone that wants to be competitive...
but this is not what the argument is about.. its about being able to insure them so you wont loose something this preciousss and as a bonus.. you will see more ppl involed in pvp
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 10:28:00 -
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indeed, when you are filthy rich you can afford to loose them, or heck.. you wont even need them anymore...
they are most needed when you start, and you save every .01 isk to buy one and have NO WAY to insure them.
and yes, i would have payed to get by in a pod with my implants but pirates/ griefers these days dont even ask for that .. they just pod and i dont blame them... coz they are filthy rich and what could they have pirated from me? |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Originally by: Alt Char01
they are most needed when you start
They are not needed.
yes they are. |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 10:58:37
Originally by: mahhy
No they aren't. You can play the game just fine without them. By not having them you are not limited in what you do. Therefore they are not "needed". Perhaps you "like" them, but you do not "need" them.
need Audio pronunciation of "need" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nd)
n.
1. A condition or situation in which something is required or wanted: crops in need of water; a need for affection.
2. Something required or wanted; a requisite: ôThose of us who led the charge for these women's issues... shared a common vision in the needs of womenö (Olympia Snowe).
3. Necessity; obligation: There is no need for you to go.
4. A condition of poverty or misfortune: The family is in dire need.
and again let me remind you this is NOT about pvp and having to worry about implants. that is high-end part of game while i am talking about the begining stages of it... |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 11:13:25
Originally by: Raem Civrie
The effect implants have on you is negligible when you start. You should rather spend time training the attribute skills than whine on the forums.
On the contrary, the greatest effect in reducing skill training time, by raising attribs ( yes, even through implants) its when ones attribs are low (ie has not fully trained learning skills)...
But i thought you knew more about me...guess not. So plz, stop taking sides before knowing how the game really works.
Since you are telling me what to do ill reserve the same privilege for myself and tell you to go read the skills forums some more. |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 11:30:46
thank-you Adriana... i couldnt have said it better myself... been trying to dodge ppl that are not fully aware of the problem and how the game works and as you said.. they are l33t.
Sanaen, let me put it this way... you will NEVER be uber as you said without implants... esp not as long as some ppl DO have them and others wont. |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Alt Char01 on 28/02/2005 11:40:26
Originally by: mahhy
If losing implants actually stopped you from doing something in game, I might understand why people complain about them so much.
I will have to pay REAL money for hmm 1, or 2 extra months (give or take), before I would be able to use lets say, a HAC?
Do YOU get it now? and its not only the money, its also my wasted time.
and dutchpowercow, i DO train gunnery skills to be able to take those nasty rats in the combat missions my agent gives me. thats the only argument i could find in your post, and i did skip it past the name calling.. i somehow expected more than that. |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dutchpowercow
You have to invest time and money before you can become good at the game as a player. If you dont have the patience, money, time and willpower to do so, I suggest you take a look at different games.
In eve, you cant expect to be as good as some of the veterans after just a month or 2.
And even if you wanted to be so, implants wont help you archieve this any much faster.
implants WILL help you achieve this faster. its proven fact. no argument about that. |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Thats what I'd call the right attitude. Nobody should just blindly take risks, unless you're a little unsettled. But refusing risk because of fictional money is even more insane, IMO 
I thought i just explained to you its not fictional money... |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dutchpowercow
Nonetheless, there is no reason to implement any of the ideas you proposed. If you have any argument that can make me think otherwise, please post.
if real life money is not reason enought to you i dont know what is... |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wahad Bredkebir
Originally by: Alt Char01
if real life money is not reason enought to you i dont know what is...
Well i spend money to play a game not to train skills 
i also pay to play but how can you play when all you can do is wait and the only thing you can do to speed this up is to get implants and training learning skills (this making the wait even longer) |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dutchpowercow
In the begining of eve, this goes slow.
exactly, and implants will help you out...
im getting bored of this cat and mouse game as you dont seem to comprehend anything of what i say and you just fiddle around.... |
Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sanaen Eydanwadh
Originally by: Alt Char01
if real life money is not reason enought to you i dont know what is...
LOL !!!
I love this one
Seriously, if you're that bored with this game (seems you are, if you're just waiting to become "uber", one more time) (and "uber" is ironic, I didn't think that was really your goal in my frst post ^^), you'd better try another... or buy another character with "real money", I've heard some really strange people do that.... but you won't have more fun
Just one more point someone might have already said: your effectiveness in game isn't that much linked with your skill points ! I've relative good skills by myself, but I'm quite a bad freedom fighter. Maybe because I don't use implants ? ;)
this argument is out of context and of course it does not look good...
the argument is to *SAVE* money while *MAXIMIZING* fun time and *REDUCING* waiting times
but you cant be bothered to read the whole post i know...
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Toran Mehtar
If you have put the effort in that you can afford to use and lose the luxury that is implants, good for you. If you haven't, then I suggest you look first at yourself rather than whining about those who have. Either put in more work, or accept that you can't and shut up.
again, people will manage to afford them, the problem is keeping them, even in empire space, unless u really want to spend all your life in a station...
thats why we need insurance for them or make it so you cant loose them...
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Toran Mehtar
I have the same set of implants in my head I have always had, the first if which I got when I was about 3 weeks old. I also have a full set of implant sititng in my hangar just incase, and sufficient isk to buy another complete set if needed. How ? Because I was good enough to earn the isk, and good enough to keep what I'd spent it on. Having implants is a reward for effort; having not lost implants is a reward for effort.
If you can't handle that somebody has rewards that you don't for either putting in more work or being better at it, then I suggest that you do not play competitive games.
indeed they are a reward but how is one supposed to 'not loose' them when secure space is unsecure? ive already told you how
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Alt Char01
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Posted - 2005.02.28 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Toran Mehtar
And I've already told you that I've managed to keep mine perfectly well in exactly the same 'unsecure' secure space. Some people cope, some don't - that's what makes it a game.
indeed you are one special person, ill give you that... did you take your precious alt on a stroll in empire space? was your heart pumping fast? were you not afraid to loose them?
the problem is for a new player all he has is his implants, if he looses them he looses everything (suppose he looses his ship and all assets he was moving to lets say.... a different agent) so what are you left with after 1 month, or 2 of play? nothing, 0. should i continue paying for this to happen again? i think not.
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